"Watching him from my perspective has gotten a lot less interesting."But despite Jones' legal woes, Holmes said that the culture he's helped engender has gotten a lot bigger."Conspiracy culture is something that is created through the cracks of our regular society," Holmes said.
And although their podcast focuses on scrutinizing Jones and his tactics, Holmes said the trial was really about the victims."People would like to focus on Alex being kind of a bombastic character that we can mock and make fun of, but this isn't about him," Holmes said.
"But also that in order to make it interesting for anybody to listen to, we have to make it make something entertaining."
Friesen has listened to countless hours of Jones' program, and calls it an "incredibly boring experience.""The reason that I do this is because I can stomach that boredom," Friesen said.